How Yes Set a Course for the ‘80s With ‘Drama’

When Sure launched Drama in 1980, it took some followers without warning. Vocalist Jon Anderson and keyboard legend Rick Wakeman have been gone. Of their place, Trevor Horn and Geoff Downes of the Buggles stepped in on vocals and keyboards respectively.

As jarring because it might need been on the time, the Drama album turned out to be a captivating pay attention and over time turned each a fan favourite and a cult traditional. It was additionally Horn and Downes’ solely album with that configuration of the group. In traditional Sure style, the lineup shifted once more although Horn would stay in a distinct capability as producer to assist craft the following blockbuster 90125.

“I believe it actually began Sure into the course they took within the ’80s,” Downes tells UCR. “Drama was actually the paving stone for [90125] going ahead.”

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Because the seeds of 90125 have been taking form, nonetheless, Downes was off on his personal adventures. He teamed up with hisfellow Sure mate Steve Howe on guitar, Emerson, Lake and Palmer’s Carl Palmer on drums and King Crimson / U.Ok. alum John Wetton on vocals to kind the pop/progressive hybrid Asia. Their self-titled 1982 debut broke loads of floor. Asia soared to No. 1 on Billboard’s album charts, spawning three hit singles together with “Warmth of the Second.” The album would ultimately promote greater than 10 million copies.

Within the 4 many years since, Downes has been the continuous presence and guiding power for Asia. The band has “all the time had a barely amorphous really feel about it,” he says. “There have been individuals out and in all through the years.” In 2024, he has once more assembled a brand new lineup, anchored by vocalist Harry Whitley, who made his debut final yr performing the band’s songs with Downes at a tribute live performance for the late Wetton, who handed away in 2017.

This summer time’s Warmth of the Second Tour brings Asia again to the USA as a part of a multi-act invoice that additionally contains Focus, former Wishbone Ash lead singer Martin Turner and Curved Air. Downes checked in with UCR to debate the present trek and his previous historical past, together with that formative expertise with Sure.

I like the best way this present Asia lineup got here collectively. It looks like it was a really natural factor.
It began off actually as a tribute that we did for John Wetton final summer time. We bought a lot enthusiasm round it – actually with Harry. he actually raised a number of eyebrows. It actually got here collectively nicely and such as you say, it was a really natural formation. That’s what actually prompted me to say, “Nicely, lots of people love Asia’s music. Let’s take it out.” The opposite acts on the invoice, Focus, you understand, they haven’t performed in America for 30 years. Martin Turner, previously of Wishbone Ash, so there’s a number of the stuff from the early Wishbone Ash within the ’70s. And you then’ve bought Curved Air as nicely with Sonja Kristina. So there’s a very good 20-odd-year span of music to absorb, only for starters.

For followers that wish to take a journey with progressive music, this tour lineup actually indulges that.
It does certainly. , on the floor, it doesn’t appear completely appropriate as a result of Asia was not a lot of a progressive rock band per se – though all of us got here from enormous progressive rock bands like ELP, Sure and King Crimson. However it’s a pleasant nod to the historical past of the earlier Asia members as nicely that have been all a part of that period. There’s a number of hits between us, when you consider Asia, Focus, Wishbone Ash and Curved Air. It is an actual feast of music.

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Roger Dean can be a part of the tour and his album artwork for Asia and Sure is known. What do you like about what Roger does?
I first met Roger after I was doing the Drama album [with Yes]. He did the quilt for the album and clearly, he’s synonymous with Sure from the very early days, beginning with Fragile. The enduring brand has stayed all through. Once I left Sure and Trevor [Horn] went his personal method, I carried on working with Steve [Howe]. Chris [Squire] and Alan [White] had gone off to do one thing else. Steve had an extended relationship with Roger and mentioned, “, Roger’s the person who would become involved with Asia.” So once more, he got here up with the enduring triangular brand and the serpent on the entrance sleeve. He’s a unbelievable artist. I’ve gotten to know him very nicely over time. The truth that he might really come out with us [is great]. He’s practically 80 years outdated now, in order that he needs to nonetheless come out and do it and meet the followers and signal the entire albums that folks convey, it’s an actual good factor to do. He has his personal show within the lobby of most venues and it’s nice to have him alongside.

What was the method of working with Roger, when he was designing one thing?
I believe we might give him a quick, however one factor about Roger is that he likes to take heed to the music. He likes to know what the titles are and what the lyrics are. He’s very a lot a hands-on man who doesn’t simply provide you with a portray and say, “That’s it.” He actually needs to get infused within the music and the entire presentation. Numerous what he does, I believe, is de facto attribute of the music that’s contained contained in the album. He’s very, superb at greedy sure issues. John Wetton was actually good at giving him ideas, as the principle lyricist. So he’d give him concepts and Roger would come again with an thought. Typically with Roger, his art work was very central. There’s all the time a central determine just like the serpent on the primary album, the eagle on Alpha, the robotic woman on Astra. He’s very, superb at doing that. One of many options of his art work is that it’s very placing, the pictures that he manages to get throughout. He’s nonetheless very related at this time, you understand, for him to have been doing what he does and nonetheless be round, being inventive and breaking new boundaries, it’s nice.

Take me again to the second while you bought this present Asia lineup right into a room for rehearsals.
I’d form of reached out to all of them individually prior, so that they had some thought of what we’re going to be coping with. The superb factor was, when everybody began taking part in, it simply sounded so alive. Harry is a useless ringer for John in some ways when it comes to his vocal supply and his normal presentation. He was an actual discover. To me, he’s a really, very gifted man, there’s no query about that. … It appeared like a really, very good method of paying tribute to John as a lot as anything. , the concept that we might put collectively this group of musicians that will actually do justice to Asia’s music. John’s all the time in my thoughts. Clearly, I had a unbelievable friendship and writing relationship with John. We broke down some partitions with our writing. It was all the time a really inspirational day spent writing with John. I cherish these reminiscences.

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With the entire totally different evolution that Asia went via, it is a particular factor that ultimately you and John, Carl and Steve have been capable of reunite.
The reunion interval was very rewarding for us. Previous to that, I don’t suppose we felt that we’d ever get again collectively once more with the unique lineup. It lasted a very good seven or eight years and we did three or 4 albums within the interim. It was actually rewarding as a result of I believe all of us felt that we by no means actually gave it an extended sufficient shot. The unique lineup solely lasted just a few years at the start. It was good to return to that and revisit it. Nobody had any qualms. There have been no gremlins; there was no backbiting. Everybody simply mentioned, “This might be a fantastic thought. Let’s give it a shot.” These have been very completely satisfied occasions, to return collectively like that in 2006. We did some intensive touring and recording. I’ll all the time have fond reminiscences of that interval too.

It feels prefer it put a greater finish on that individual interval of Asia, in comparison with the way it wrapped up initially.
I believe it began one other chapter within the guide. We felt the guide was too skinny, so we added some extra chapters. It was a fantastic factor. As soon as Steve left in 2013, we’d coated a number of floor. He was getting too busy with Sure on the time or didn’t really feel that he might [focus] his consideration to 2 utterly totally different initiatives. However you understand, we carried on. We did one other album, Gravitas, which was good and did a tour. The factor is, with Asia, it’s all the time had a barely amorphous really feel about it. There have been individuals out and in all through the years. However clearly, the unique lineup is one thing that I maintain very expensive. On the identical time, it’s clearly not going to be the identical, as a result of we don’t have John anymore. We will’t actually do something about that however I believe he would have wished me to hold on and exit and promote the songs and play to the followers. , Asia was essential for lots of people on the time. It was the largest promoting album of 1982. We had an infinite following at the moment. Numerous the school college students have been actually into Asia. Clearly, everyone seems to be grown up now. There’s a complete new technology of [fans, as well]. However actually from my standpoint, I believe it’s necessary that there’s some nice music there. It needs to be carried out.

You have talked about how the majority of the Asia members had spent a number of time engaged on progressive music and also you got here from extra of the pop aspect. However you’d carried out Drama with Sure. How did that develop you creatively as a musician?
Trevor and I have been each huge Sure followers, in addition to Genesis. Regardless that our course had taken us to the pop space, we have been nonetheless huge into Pink Floyd, Sure and Genesis, King Crimson and all of these bands. We’d grown up on that stuff. Generally, we needed to make a residing and a number of the residing that we did was via session work, backing bands and all of that form of factor. It was solely actually after we determined to go forward with the Buggles [that things changed], however we nonetheless had some progressive parts within the Buggles. Regardless that it’s pop, it’s quirky pop. It’s not your common straight song-orientated stuff. We experimented with expertise quite a bit. I believe that’s one of many issues that after we bought concerned with the identical administration as Sure, I believe Chris, Steve and Alan weren’t doing quite a bit on the time – or they have been simply rehearsing as a three-piece. After all, Trevor being a singer and me being a keyboard participant, there was an area there. They requested us in the future, “Do you wish to write a track for us?” We bought right into a rehearsal room with them and began engaged on just a few bits and items. I believe “Machine Messiah” was the grounding factor we began.

We additionally had a track known as “I Am a Digital camera,” which was a Buggles track. They redeveloped that and it became “Into the Lens.” So we sort of morphed into Sure. I believe they actually appreciated having a few technological guys in there as a result of, you understand, they’ve carried out the entire huge stuff. They’d carried out the 20-minute “Near the Edge” [type of songs]. They’d carried out Story From Topographic Oceans and all of those nice, unbelievable huge songs, however they have been in search of one thing a bit extra updated, I believe. So, it was a giant turning level for Sure at the moment, going from the ’70s into the ’80s. The Drama album is de facto the head of that for them. We helped to inject some modernism. Definitely, a number of the lyrical stuff of Sure, it’s fabulous but it surely was a number of pastoral lyrics and stuff like that – whereas after we got here in, there have been crunchy sounds and I believe it actually began Sure into the course they took within the ’80s, actually when Trevor Rabin got here in and Trevor Horn produced 90125. I believe Drama was actually the paving stone for that going ahead.

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