As bandmembers die, how long can a group continue before it’s not the same group? – National

After I was rising up in Winnipeg, there was an old school Good Fellas-type supper membership at 579 Portage Ave. referred to as Membership Morocco.

Opened in 1954 by a man named Harry Smith, the place ran weekly advertisements within the Winnipeg Free Press promoting the leisure for the approaching week to associate with its signature Chinese language buffet. Not solely did Harry showcase native acts, however he typically introduced in out-of-towners. Earlier than the Star Trek franchise took off with films within the late Nineteen Seventies, Nichelle Nichols — Lt. Uhura, after all — was typically the featured singer. However the group I keep in mind seeing marketed essentially the most was The Ink Spots.

They had been a pop vocal group from New York shaped in 1934, who recorded for Decca and broke up in 1954. But when the group ended within the Nineteen Fifties, how was Harry in a position to ebook them at Membership Morocco by the Nineteen Seventies and ’80s? Excessive dilution, that’s how. There was a schism throughout the authentic lineup and The Ink Spots splintered repeatedly and once more. There could have been dozens of Ink Spots, none of which had any authentic members and even legit ties to the group that shaped in 1934. All of them in some way managed to commerce on that title and legacy for years.

We’re beginning to run into the identical drawback immediately with bands cherished by Boomers and Gen Xers. Because the bands of their youth splinter and die off member by member, we’re beginning to see a disaster of authenticity. When is the band we go to see NOT the band we need to see?

Pretend bands, like we noticed with The Ink Spots, are nothing new. Frankie Goes to Hollywood — notorious for his or her British and MTV hits Loosen up and Two Tribes — launched a tour of the U.S. The issue was this group was an entire pretend with no authentic members and was shaped with out anybody’s information or consent. Out entrance was a man who referred to as himself Davey Johnson and claimed to be precise singer Holly Johnson’s brother, which, after all, he wasn’t. But this FGTH managed to play gigs all through the U.S. for nearly two years.

Cobbled-together reunions have additionally been an issue. Bear in mind when The Doorways hit the street once more? Wait: The correct title of this group was The Doorways of the twenty first Century and embrace simply two authentic members; keyboardist Ray Manzarek and guitarist Robby Krieger. Jim Morrison, nonetheless stubbornly lifeless since 1971, was unable to take part. His place was taken by Ian Astbury of the Cult. Drummer John Densmore couldn’t make it due to a nasty case of tinnitus, so Stewart Copeland of the Police stuffed in. Regardless of authorized issues with their use of the title, they continued to gig till Manzarek died in 2013.

As time marches on, the issues with authenticity are rising. Traditional rock artists are dying, leaving large holes of their teams that can not be stuffed.

ZZ High, for instance. For 51 years, the group consisted of the unbreakable trinity of Billy Gibbons, Frank Beard, and Dusty Hill, promoting an estimated 50 million albums. However then on July 28, 2021, Hill died after being hospitalized with a hip harm and since then, ZZ High has carried on with a bass participant named Elwood Francis. Query: Given the all-for-one-one-for-all picture of the unique three hombres, is that this nonetheless ZZ High?

The identical query may be requested of Lynyrd Skynyrd, who actually haven’t been the identical since that deadly aircraft crash in October 1977 that killed founding member, frontman, and lyricist Ronnie Van Zant. Skynyrd regrouped 10 years later and has carried on ever since. At this time, guitarist Gary Rossington is the one authentic member. By some means listening to immediately’s lineup play Freebird simply doesn’t really feel proper, contemplating that 13 former members of the band are lifeless. But they’re going to tour in 2023 with — await it — ZZ High.

Even weirder is the case of The Allman Brothers. Duane and Gregg Allman shaped the band in 1969 with Dickey Betts, Berry Oakley, Butch Vans, and Jaimoe Jameson. Duane died in a motorbike accident in 1971 and Gregg succumbed to liver most cancers in 2017. There’s a model of the Allman Brothers nonetheless enjoying gigs with a lineup that doesn’t embrace a single member of any version of the unique band. A promoter got here up with the thought of buying and selling on the Allman Brothers model by conserving the music alive utilizing youthful gamers. A tribute band? Not in keeping with the promoter or the Allman’s property. The challenge has its full endorsement. Look ahead to them on the street in 2023.

Exterior of Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley, KISS has had a revolving door coverage with lead guitarists and drummers ever since Ace Frehley and Peter Criss began going squirrelly within the early Eighties. Now that the band is approaching its remaining FINAL reveals (or so they are saying), Simmons has mused about conserving KISS alive with replacements for him and Paul. Hey, there’s nonetheless a Glenn Miller Orchestra although Miller died throughout World Conflict II. Why not?

Then there’s the unusual state of affairs of Foreigner. They’ll start an 18-month farewell tour subsequent that would possibly embrace sole authentic member Mick Jones, however due to well being points (and the truth that the dude is nearly 80), he may not make it to all the gigs.

Let’s think about a couple of others:

• Fleetwood Mac, decreased to a few (Stevie Nicks, Mick Fleetwood, and John McVie) following the irreparable estrangement of Lindsey Buckingham and the latest loss of life of Christine McVie.
• The Eagles, with simply Don Henley, Joe Walsh, and Timothy B. Schmidt remaining from the basic lineup.
• The Rolling Stones: Mick, Keef, and Ronnie. That’s it.
• The Who, down to simply Roger Daltrey and Pete Townshend since John Entwistle handed in 2002. Keith Moon has been gone since 1978.
• Journey: Neal Schon and Jonathan Cain are all who stay from the group’s imperial part of the Eighties.
• Steely Dan is down to simply Donald Fagen following the loss of life of Walter Becker.
• The Seaside Boys: It’s simply Mike Love.
• Emerson, Lake & Palmer, on the street in 2023 with solely drummer Carl Palmer. The opposite two members have died.
• Sure: Solely Steve Howe stays from the prog-rock glory years.
• Blood, Sweat & Tears, Quiet Riot, Ratt: Nonetheless touring however with ZERO authentic members. (We are able to additionally put GWAR on this camp, however given the best way they’ve at all times operated, we’ll give them a cross.)

There are a lot extra, however I believe you get the thought.

The state of affairs will solely devolve additional till these basic acts are the equal of Ted Williams’ head in a cryogenic chamber. However don’t low cost metaverse expertise, holograms, and avatar productions (assume ABBA Voyage; the Bee Gees and Cher are reportedly eager about one thing comparable.) There’s means an excessive amount of cash to be made on nostalgia.

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Alan Cross is a broadcaster with Q107 and 102.1 the Edge and a commentator for International Information.

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