When you’ve ever searched on YouTube for a overview of the most recent iPhone or electrical automotive, then you definately’ve in all probability encountered Marques Brownlee. Since he began his channel MKBHD as an adolescent in 2009, Brownlee has amassed 15.8 million subscribers for his in-depth, but approachable tech movies. He’s even scored interviews with Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, Invoice Gates and Barack Obama, and to prime all of it off, he’s an expert final frisbee participant (the previous president even complimented his “unbelievable hops.”)

However maybe Brownlee’s most spectacular accomplishment is his potential to stay related over 10 years into his on-line video profession with out dropping his viewers’s belief. And as short-form video content material turns into a necessity for any creator, Brownlee has seamlessly transitioned to TikTok, the place he made one of many solely good April Fools’ Day pranks.

We caught up with Brownlee at VidCon, the place he was serving to Discord promote the beta take a look at of its server subscriptions (be careful, Patreon). In a dialog with maybe probably the most well-known tech reviewer — sorry, different TechCrunch writers — the 28-year-old web star informed us about transitioning to TikTok, his views on the metaverse and why Google Glass deserves a redemption arc.

This interview has been condensed for readability.

TC: It’s not straightforward to make TikToks or YouTube shorts whenever you made it massive on YouTube with 20-ish-minute movies. How do you go about making shorter content material on these new platforms? 

MB: I take into consideration this so much. I see ways in which I don’t like doing it, like folks repurposing different content material and turning it into short-form content material. I’d a lot somewhat make native content material for every platform. After we first began making shorts, it was a problem. I used to be like, how do I actually minimize this all the way down to 60 seconds or much less? I feel my first three shorts are 59.8 seconds lengthy. We discovered that after particularly deciding to spend time on TikTok, then attending to know what works effectively, helped us make stuff native to the platform higher.

With so many new creator packages throughout platforms, what does the pie chart of your earnings as a creator appear to be?

I’d say it’s about 50% YouTube’s built-in advert mannequin and 50% every part else — that features our merch retailer, different offers we do and issues like that. However the bread and butter for thus lengthy has been the movies. It’s only a well-oiled machine. We don’t actually take into consideration overhead, we simply know that movies can and can carry out, which is … thanks, YouTube!

Though short-form video has grow to be extraordinarily well-liked, nobody’s actually discovered monetize it but — do you might have any ideas on how that may work?

I don’t have a solution, and anybody who claims to have a solution might be mendacity. It makes a lot sense that short-form video can explode. The numbers that we see are usually not the identical because the numbers elsewhere. , 20 million views on TikTok could be very totally different from 20 million views on YouTube. After we discuss monetizing movies, monetization on YouTube is tied to the video since you made the selection [to watch the video]. You noticed the thumbnail, you hung out there, that was on you. That transaction works. However shorts are simply completely totally different. I don’t know tie that collectively and make {that a} good, neat monetization resolution.

You’ve stayed related as a tech reviewer for over 10 years — how do you steadiness staying true to your perspective whereas additionally remaining accessible?

I attempt to be as clear as doable about what I like and don’t like. It’s subjective. However whether or not somebody agrees with my desire in a bit of tech virtually doesn’t matter. I attempt to put myself into the sneakers of the viewer and say what I’d need them to know in the event that they had been going to purchase the factor.

What traits in expertise are you most enthusiastic about?

I feel AR/VR is one all of our eyes are on proper now. It’s enjoyable as a result of for me, probably the most attention-grabbing beginnings of recent tech are whenever you get a product that truly is meant to assist folks or ship a brand new expertise, and I feel we’re proper about to begin seeing merchandise which might be like, the killer app, like actually attention-grabbing and bringing folks in. We had Google Glass, we had loopy stuff prior to now, however I feel we’re about to see a bunch of cool stuff.

What do you concentrate on the thought of the metaverse?

I get what folks see in it. I get why Fb — or, Meta — desires to have a giant stake in it. However on the identical time, it has to have a function. We’ve got to wish to do the brand new factor for a purpose, and I’m nonetheless on the lookout for that purpose.

Yeah, enjoying video video games in VR is one factor, however hanging out with mates in VR and going to work in VR is a more durable promote.

There’s some “Prepared Participant One”-type vibes generally the place it’s like, “what wouldn’t it imply if we didn’t need to go to the assembly?” However it’s additionally not that arduous to only do the factor we usually do. I’m on the lookout for a purpose to essentially wish to do this stuff. I give new stuff a shot, as a result of that’s my job. I give it an opportunity. However I feel we’re possibly on the point of getting a bunch extra attention-grabbing solutions to that query.

Meta’s VR {hardware} is enjoyable to play with, however I don’t wish to dwell in it.

It’s simply one other cool piece of tech to play with, and there’s a variety of cool tech to play with already. It’s not going to get that mass adoption that I’m positive Meta is hoping for.

Do you assume AR shall be extra accessible to folks than VR?

That’s the place I discover it best to see helpful use instances. I keep in mind the Google Glass days, and as loopy as that product was, having turn-by-turn navigation directions simply within the nook of your imaginative and prescient when you’re strolling by an unfamiliar metropolis could be very helpful. Little stuff like that, I really discovered actually useful, at its core. The {hardware} was previous, and that’s 10 years in the past, so clearly tech has gotten so much higher since then. However I feel AR is simpler for me to see as a future.

What firms do you assume are doing AR effectively?

Clearly the iPhone and lidar. Functionally, it’s actually good, but it surely doesn’t do something helpful. Yeah, I can put a sofa in a room and see what it appears to be like like, however I’m nonetheless on the lookout for that “gotta have it” factor.

Is there any tech that you just assume was helpful, however didn’t make it? 

Google Glass is the right reply. Ten years in the past, strolling right into a bar with a digicam in your face was insane, and now Snapchat simply made a pair of glasses with the digicam proper on it. It’s far more acceptable.

There are a variety of privateness debates round wearable tech — do you might have any moral issues round this sort of tech?

Nicely, you at all times hope it comes from a accountable firm that does accountable issues, which is why there’s concern with Meta. That’s all I’ll say about that! However yeah, it’s the identical as along with your cellphone — for those who’re doing vital stuff in your cellphone, there shall be a variety of vital information there, so privateness shall be vital. We hope that the businesses do the fitting factor with that information.

Is there any piece of tech that you just assume extra folks ought to be speaking about?

Non-Tesla EVs. They’re virtually there.